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    Joni Mitchell and the mystery of Morgellons disease

    The hospitalization of music legend Joni Mitchell on Tuesday night shocked and worried millions of fans. Mitchell was found unconscious at her home and rushed to the emergency room, but the nature of her illness is still unconfirmed. The incident revived concern about an odd and mysterious health condition Mitchell has spoken about suffering in the past. It is known as Morgellons disease, and it reportedly affects some 13,000 people in the U.S. It's in fact so mysterious and odd that the consensus in the majority of the medical community is that Morgellons doesn't actually exist.

    People who complain of Morgellons disease cite a number of symptoms, but the primary issue is the presence of colorful fibers or "filaments" that sprout from lesions or appear under the skin. Symptoms of Morgellons -- named from a 1674 medical paper that described similar symptoms -- also include sensations of itching, biting or crawling on the skin, as well as chronic fatigue, joint pain, difficulty with memory and thinking, mood changes and some neurological problems.

    In 2010, Mitchell told a reporter at the Los Angeles Times that she has a "weird, incurable disease that seems like it's from outer space." She said the condition is the reason why she often hides from the public eye. Mitchell described seeing "fibers in a variety of colors protrude out of my skin like mushrooms after a rainstorm: they cannot be forensically identified as animal, vegetable or mineral."

    "Morgellons is a slow, unpredictable killer -- a terrorist disease: it will blow up one of your organs, leaving you in bed for a year," she continued. "Morgellons is always diagnosed as 'delusion of parasites,' and they send you to a psychiatrist. I'm actually trying to get out of the music business to battle for Morgellons sufferers to receive the credibility that's owed to them."

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    Re: Joni Mitchell and the mystery of Morgellons disease

    I know a little about this...have two female friends, both 50yrs. Facial lesions, body lesions and its rather ghastly...I have myself removed these fibers from one friends chin and looked at "them" under a microscope and they are what they say they are.

    Also prior to removal, you could feel the fibers, under the skin and they felt like splinters...very tough and hard to break.

    After several visits to the doctor and 2 skin specialists, and eventually one of them having removed fibers for analysis, this was the report from the pathologists:

    "Substantial unidentified granular refractile matter".

    ooh yeah that really helped, as no one knows what the **** that means...


    little info:

    A British physician named Sir Thomas Browne way back in 1674 during the Tudor era. He detailed a condition known as “The Morgellon” which included the presence of “harsh fibers” on the backs of infected children.

    CDC’s Denial of Morgellons

    The CDC had followed up the influx of Morgellons cases with a 5-year “formal” study that was badly underfunded and misguided, but the result of the study was a permanent ruling that proved to be a slap in the face for all Morgellons sufferers.

    The CDC concluded that Morgellons wasn’t a disease at all but a psychiatric ailment, or psychosomatic disorder, and they weren’t going to follow up with any other studies to prove otherwise. It was a cop out.

    How and why the CDC came down with that ruling after a weak study we may never know.

    Nowadays, Randy Wymore has become the default authority on Morgellons as he is the head of the Center for the Investigation of Morgellons Disease at the Oklahoma State University Center for Health Sciences.
    Morgellons starts with relentless itching, stinging or biting sensations. Cotton-like balls may appear on the body with no reasonable explanation. Soon skin rash develops along with lesions that will not heal. Many sufferers report string-like fibers of varying color popping out through the skin lesions. These fibers can be black, white, red or even iridescent blue. Others report black specks falling from their bodies that litter their sheets and bathrooms. Eventually a variety of bugs and worms begin to find their way out of the body through the lesions. Other accompanying symptoms include hair loss, debilitating and chronic fatigue, hard nodules beneath the skin, and joint pain.

    Morgellons also has a cognitive aspect. People with the disease experience neurological damage that manifests as difficulty concentrating, inability to process and use language effectively, and generalized brain fog. The presence of reduced cognitive ability has made it easier for doctors to dismiss Morgellons and send patients away with a diagnosis of delusional parasitosis, meaning they are imagining they are infected by parasites. After the typical eight minute visit, traditional doctors pull out their prescription pads and write these people prescriptions for antidepressants or antipsychotic medications.

    As a result, Morgellons also has a psychological component. Once people become aware that symptoms such as theirs are treated as delusions they are reluctant to seek further medical attention and tend to withdraw from society with their only contact with others being through the internet. They begin living the lifestyle of the leper. Many have to give up their jobs and become dependent on
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    Re: Joni Mitchell and the mystery of Morgellons disease

    Now I'm not jumping to any convoluted conclusions as there are tons out there already in regards to Morgellons causes...but here is a wee taste, and ALL countries were subject to this "testing" at one time or another...and leaves one pondering...

    Millions were in germ war tests
    Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials

    Antony Barnett, public affairs editor

    Sunday 21 April 2002 19.23 AEST Last modified on Monday 22 April 2002 19.23 AEST
    The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.

    A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

    Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

    While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

    The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

    The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.

    In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.

    One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

    While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

    In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

    The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

    Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack. In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall.

    Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

    In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

    However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

    David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

    The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.'

    Successive governments have tried to keep details of the germ warfare tests secret. While reports of a number of the trials have emerged over the years through the Public Records Office, this latest MoD document - which was released to Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker - gives the fullest official version of the biological warfare trials yet.

    Baker said: 'I welcome the fact that the Government has finally released this information, but question why it has taken so long. It is unacceptable that the public were treated as guinea pigs without their knowledge, and I want to be sure that the Ministry of Defence's claims that these chemicals and bacteria used were safe is true.'

    The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s.

    The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW [biological warfare] attack.'

    Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

    'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

    Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'

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    Re: Joni Mitchell and the mystery of Morgellons disease

    Court and Spark, Miles Of Aisles, Hejira.

    God those were great works of art!

    Please be well, Joni. You need to make just one more.
    "Life IS mystical! Its just that we're used to it." - Wolf, the movie
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