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    Welcome again Dan. great post. Reading down before I began listening, I came across:
    Ask yourself how much money was $300million back in the early 1951 In today's market that would have to equal Billions.
    Well, By a straight CPI index calculation you arrive at $2.1 Billion.

    If you include how the labor laws re. compensation have changed as well, you get $12.1 Billion.

    So somewhere between your avg new sports arena, to the price of a classy Vegas Hotel/Casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HURRITT ENYETO View Post
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    But that is also a very bleak outlook on our situation. I would still rather know the truth, although if this Universe does operate on the principle of exploitation, survival of the fittest etc, I'm not sure I would want to be a part of it.

    And if that's the case, where is the Ying to their Yang? I don't see much of a benevolent force here to help us on planet Earth if I'm honest. And how can we EVER help ourselves?



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    And that's the clue.

    Notice that what is described is pretty much materialistic/darwinistic one. Which is what one could expect from higher-up imperials.

    The power structure we know requires fixed universe, near point of freeze. Only there the "clockwork" can operate. If the "temperature" goes too high, it just melts. "The order" requires controll, and controll requites degree of predictability chaotic systems by definition do not have.

    Note the lack of hyperdimensional technology for example.

    Is it that it is not possible? Or maybe it is unacceptable from power-structure point of view?

    Technology is mirror image of underlying society.

    From my point-of-view, this is clear case of "you cannot use weapon of the Enemy". Sauron ring and all that. We need another brand of technology, which means another kind of underlying society. Which also means completely different philosophy.

    Different majic.

    This is hard to understand, as we are taught (or rather crippled) to think that there is only one "right track" for "evolution".

    From this point of view the problem of "lacking" emerges. There are other ways, and abundant ecosystem on this planed is prime example of it. This is while Empire, on this and other planets, is so focused on physically eradicating it.

    But chaos trumps order, as it is better organized .. though it is hard for clockmaker to appreciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredkc View Post
    Welcome again Dan. great post. Reading down before I began listening, I came across:

    Well, By a straight CPI index calculation you arrive at $2.1 Billion.

    If you include how the labor laws re. compensation have changed as well, you get $12.1 Billion.


    So somewhere between your avg new sports arena, to the price of a classy Vegas Hotel/Casino.

    Fred
    Mental note: since most of underground projects are similiar in timeframe to the "U.S. interstate Highways" project, (1956 onwards) this would be a perfect "hiding place" for both funds AND materials.
    I assure you from a God's Olympian perch that government is a shared myth. When the myth dies, the government dies.
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    Leto Atreides II to Siona

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    Well, I watched all of the video, but have no real feeling (gut sense) of the truth of this man. He refers to his 3 books
    of which I think I would have to read to get a better sense of his truth.

    I find if they can put images in the mind it is contradictory to then say in answering questions>>>for those who didn't have
    the command of English language yet that it would be down to using hand signs to communicate??? If their nervous system is
    three times faster and ie, that one female alien put her guard on his knees when he reached out then she knew ahead of time
    what is action was going to be in touching her...........I would think there is some telepathy there of sorts>>>>confusing but then
    that is why I would have to read the books.

    I agree Hurritt regarding secrecy and don't think that one would have any more answers than watching the video should one read
    the books. It is this man's experience and one that we will not really get a knowing of till the truth in what is going on with our Planet
    becomes a reality for all to see and experience IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandy View Post
    Well, I watched all of the video, but have no real feeling (gut sense) of the truth of this man. He refers to his 3 books
    of which I think I would have to read to get a better sense of his truth.

    I find if they can put images in the mind it is contradictory to then say in answering questions>>>for those who didn't have
    the command of English language yet that it would be down to using hand signs to communicate??? If their nervous system is
    three times faster and ie, that one female alien put her guard on his knees when he reached out then she knew ahead of time
    what is action was going to be in touching her...........I would think there is some telepathy there of sorts>>>>confusing but then
    that is why I would have to read the books.

    I agree Hurritt regarding secrecy and don't think that one would have any more answers than watching the video should one read
    the books. It is this man's experience and one that we will not really get a knowing of till the truth in what is going on with our Planet
    becomes a reality for all to see and experience IMHO.
    Yeah, the thing with me Sandy, is I can find inconsistency's with virtually all of these guys story's, even the ones I (mostly)fully believe.
    Its like the Roswell story. I fully believe that something happened there, probably involving an alien craft. But as the years roll on several completely separate incidents that happened over perhaps a decade, get rolled into one in peoples minds, and you have an incident that is very different then what actually happened. Even eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Just ask a police officer, I know this from first hand experience. (and I'm in no way saying that's what happened in this case)

    The memory is a funny thing, and certainly in the kind of circumstances in the OP.
    And most of these guys for obvious reasons only come out and tell their story's many years after the actual events (sometimes several decades)



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    there is another interview with Charles J. Hall out on youtube. it is in 5 pieces.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDw7evRh1hc

    He says that if you want to see Aliens you just have to go to Las Vegas.
    If they are and have been so common there, especially now when everyone
    has a camera in their phone, how come nobody has posted a photo titled
    "alien looking dude - vegas"?

    And then I thought, if we all start looking like this: http://www.teenvogue.com/beauty/blog...-in-style.html
    they can just come out cause we all look the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flo View Post
    there is another interview with Charles J. Hall out on youtube. it is in 5 pieces.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDw7evRh1hc

    He says that if you want to see Aliens you just have to go to Las Vegas.
    If they are and have been so common there, especially now when everyone
    has a camera in their phone, how come nobody has posted a photo titled
    "alien looking dude - vegas"?

    And then I thought, if we all start looking like this: http://www.teenvogue.com/beauty/blog...-in-style.html
    they can just come out cause we all look the same.
    Thanks for this link, I was having a great deal of trouble hearing the audio on the original video posted in this thread.

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    I have been looking at UFO Videos and stories since I have been online and at least 15 or 20 years prior to the internet. And this story of Charles Hall has captivated me more than any other story in UFO History. Its almost as if I have not been paying any attention to anything UFO related since. I cant explain the feeling that went thru my body when I found those 3 scout craft up in 5 thousand feet of mountains. The only thing that made logical sense was what Charles Hall had said and his map indeed pointing out that section exactly as being the spot well before one could see this area on Google Earth.

    Theres absolutely no way he could had known unless he was there and spoke with The Tall Whites which I will stake my reputation 100% that he did. Now for any of you who may think I'm gullible not even close I don't believe Bob Lazar or Dan Burisch one bit. The only other person I know who has been at Groom Lake, Area-51 is my great friend Edgar Fouche we actually have documentation that proves he was there.

    I want to add just a little more to the Charles Hall story . The Paper article I had posted earlier take a look at this.
    From The Reno Evening GazetteDate Jan 23 1951
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    The First article I had posted was from Jan 5 1951 people went to Vegas thinking they would need a ton of workers this was back when the New Paper was your research tool for work. And once again McKee Construction who was awarded the 300million Dollar contract would not need anymore workers are you kidding me? I really think what happened was all and I mean all underground. The Money was for materials so the Talls could build there own tunnels there own base. I have heard several stories which i cannot verify that while Tunneling under Area51 other contractors in the 1970s tunneled right into an incredible tunnel which was already there. They said it was like black glass huge and absolutely beautiful. They made the tunnels that The Rand Corporations was making look like junk in quality.

    Lets look at some tunnel Boring machines.
    Courtesy of the USAF


    The RAND Corporation


    Now I would like everyone to think back to 1951 and think what we could have accomplished with 300million dollars and the help and knowledge of a civilization that was so far ahead of us in technology that the only way I can even describe it would be to hand someone an Iphone that was alive in the 1400s and say here figure this out. The Talls built the Tunnels in which they live and used our Tax dollars why? Technology exchange look at where we are today I have a hard time thinking we went from a Horse and buggy in the early 20th century to being on the moon 69 years later without some kind of help. More to Come on underground Tunnels and bases etc.

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    I would like to thank Dan for his contributions to this forum and this thread
    For those that are not aware Dan is and I will quote from what Ed Fouche said to me "An expert on Area 51"
    I am planning to Interview Dan about this soon. <-- I just have to get time to do this, since currently I am working back to back 12 hr shifts.

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    Thanks Dan!
    This is really good information! I bet lots of people read it
    with interest and do not post to say thanks.
    But thanks and keep it coming!

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