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    Whose flag is it anyways?.

    A rant, a rambling, or a rational understanding?




    To whom does the American flag belong to?
    The military population? The civilian population? Or both?

    What does the American flag represent?
    Liberty? Conquest? Sacrifice of the soul for the country? Sacrifice of the body for the country? Sacrifice of the mind for the country? A license to high-step ... to kill?

    There is indeed a hero of our times, good folks ... and he's sacrificing a lot to stand up for what he believes in.

    Colin Kaepernick. I salute thee.

    While other sports celebrities and media celebrities and pundit celebrities squawk on between munching Zionist carrots by the acre, you have figured it out, my good man.

    The American flag is indeed strong enough to stand criticism. Criticism of all the times it has been abused so that those who abuse it can rape, pillage, and destroy peoples, nations states, and cultures foreign and domestic and then wipe themselves dry with its cleansing touch.

    The church is there for sinners on Sunday. The flag is there for sinners any day of the week. But make no mistake about it, the saints have equal rights to the flag ... and it's a sorry state that we find ourselves when the saints are forced to march off the plank of the Good Ship America.

    America is more than a flag. It's first and foremost the rightful abode of the Gettysburg people, and said people have been silenced far too long by enemies within; enemies that portray the sacrifice of the mind for the country (as volunteered in our case by Colin Kaepernick) as an act of sedition, treason, high crime and/or misdemeanor, or anything else that pops up in their pompom-waving patriotic pointed pejorative heads. Indeed, it is they who abuse the flag when they fly it in a false way. For the flag was created to unite the American people under a genuine mission of virtue (e.g. informed by The Bill of Rights), not divide them with false patriotism to a foreign power (e.g. the banking whores). And when it is indeed being flown for the interests of the latter, it ceases being an American symbol. IMO.


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    Re: Whose flag is it anyways?.

    Here's the original glory, before the impostors appropriated it for their own use. It's a story. How much of it is real? Who really knows. But rest assured, it was flown for the genuine defense of country.





    Somewhere in the American journey, the genuine stepped aside and an unreasonable facsimile, the pretender, stepped in.


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    Re: Whose flag is it anyways?.

    Amen to that...In most cases flags are used to inspire blind allegiance. I just can't get behind that. But, I do have to respect what other people feel towards it as misguided as it is. I've never really articulated WHY I believe this but it just now occurs to me that within the framework of spirituality it is nothing more than a false symbolic god. Another means to manipulate those that are confused by higher order principles and philosophy.

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    Re: Whose flag is it anyways?.

    Here in NZ we recently held a referendum to change our flag...from the Union jack in the corner with 4 stars representing the Southern Cross to our most used symbol of our Fern leaf...a little like the Canadian Maple as their indigenous flora.

    Anywhoo...$25 million later and a vote held, 52% in favour of keeping the current to 48% wanting to change...so we remain with the old one...$25 million...say wot!

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    Re: Whose flag is it anyways?.

    The flag is symbolic, true enough.

    The problems begin in earnest when symbols are misinterpreted, or worse, misrepresented. For instance, the original star spangled banner flew over the "land of the free and the home of the brave" ... which referred to a people under siege. The courage alluded to was that needed to remain stationed while under enemy attack. Fight or flight response to enemy invasion. It has since morphed into the opposite meaning, namely, to induce others to fight or flight against enemy invasion, with ourselves being the invading enemy. I think this is what Walt Kelly meant when he wrote in Pogo: "We have met the enemy ... and they are us." War is Peace. Falsehood is Truth. That sorta thing.

    The problems become a league of their own when the abuse of symbolism is rampant, just like with all the other drugs. Flag addiction is as serious as common drug addiction.

    Here, one might argue about the merits of the American flag being planted on the Moon or on other unclaimed territories. Does that go against the original meaning? No. There is no inducement of others to fight or flight when you flag the Moon, so that is not an abuse of the star spangled banner.

    Examples of abuse? The initiation of war is the most glaring example I can think of. Which then begs the question: how many wars were initiated under the American flag as opposed to the same flag flying as a fight response by a people under siege?

    And this makes it even more imperative that we identify those who attacked America on 9/11/2001 .. for the flag was being flown for both genuine reasons (by the invaded people) and for false reasons (by the invading people). So, who are the invading people? Well, one thing we can say about the invaders is that they are not Americans. Even if they dress, dine, and dance as Americans ... they are still aliens and the very den of vipers that Andrew Jackson warned us about, and later, Walt Kelly. And here, Kelly wasn't alluding to the psychology of the common people or asking the common people to accept blame ... he was subtly (or not so subtly) pointing a finger at those interests that took us away from America and into Vietnam as an invading enemy.


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