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    The Future...

    Like or not...What will your life be like in 10-20 years time?

    It matters not what I, or you, individually think of this article (as well written as it is) because it's on the money as far as what some of the future holds for us, those of us still in the living.

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    In 10-20 years you'll be an unemployed vegetarian drug addict who takes things from stores without paying.
    But first, the good news.

    You'll be alive. Statistically speaking. Every day we get better at curing and preventing the things that kill us. Cancer. Dementia. Heart disease. New, infectious diseases. Your habit of driving home drunk.

    The world in 10 years will be safer - and better medicated. Not only will you still be here (statistically speaking), you could feel younger than you do at this moment.

    The drugs alone will be worth staying alive for. Every morning you'll take a vitamin and pharma-complex tuned precisely to your lifestyle and DNA. This super-complex will treat mind, body and "soul" (whatever you imagine that to be), and it'll be so effective that you'll feel like you couldn't possibly live without it. ... And perhaps, that if you had to live without it, you'd rather die.

    I've spent the past few years doing research for a book set in the near future, and I can tell you that customised drugs are just the start. Drug-delivering tattoos.

    3D bio-printed organs. Artificial wombs. Bionic ears made from real cartilage interlaced with silver nano-particles so they can pick up radio frequencies. A "sex wearable" which keeps track of your performance, measuring thrust velocity, calories burned - even detecting erotically transmitted pathogens.

    Would it surprise you to know I made up only one of those inventions? See if you can guess which one.
    Okay, now would it surprise you to know that actually I made none of them up, and that they're all based on prototypes currently in development? The future is a strange and bewildering country.

    Maybe you suffer from a persistent allergy to the words "nanny state". The future has a cure for that. Just wait until the first time the nanny-sphere saves your life. Wait until your smartwatch (or similar wearable) detects an abnormal heartbeat, or pre-cancerous cells in your blood. Wait until it alerts you to a subtle shift in your hormone levels - then books you an appointment for a guilt-free termination before your unwanted baby is more than a few cells old.

    Or wait until the first time your car chats to a satellite floating miles above, and the satellite says, "There's some idiot overtaking on the bend ahead,' and your car takes command of the breaks and steering, saves your family's lives, then says to you, in the voice of Tom Hardy, "Hazard averted, mate. And I've sent that idiot's rego to the cops."

    And if that doesn't convince you that the future has your best interests at heart, imagine a world without traffic jams. Smart vehicles make smart decisions. "Intelligent routing" algorithms will improve traffic flows so much we'll be able to have twice as many cars on the road, and still get home twice as fast.

    If you're a woman, you'll be much happier, and not just because of the drugs. If you work, your ability to create emotionally engaging ideas will be highly valued in our sterile, tech-centric world.

    If you decide to have a baby, you probably won't even grow it in your own body. Why bother with that mess?

    It'll become safer, and less painful, to grow your little darling outside your body. Artificial wombs could even let you extend gestation beyond the usual nine months, beyond the range of nappy-changes and all-night scream-a-thons. (Though sadly not beyond their teenage years.)

    Farmers could even use these artificial wombs as a more efficient way to grow calves and lambs. Although whether we'll still be eating lamb by then is up for debate.

    Our grandchildren will be horrified that we kill animals and eat them; much less that we do it at such a massive environmental price. The impact of meat production on the environment is unsustainable, and will become even more so. In 10 years, if you still stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the environmental impact of human industry generally, and agriculture particularly, you'll be put in an energy-efficient rocket and fired into space. I hope.

    In 10 years we'll be growing most of our meat in industrial labs, and we'll use the newly available land to grow more crops. Fewer animals will be harmed in the making of our barbecues. We might not even need to eat meat. By then, science will have given us perfectly authentic "meat" made from vegetable protein. Even the most ardent carnivore won't be able to tell it from the real thing. We'll be able to have our steak and eat it too. Our heart, our waistline, and the animal kingdom, will thank us.

    Question. Do you love your phone? Do you sometimes quietly whisper, "I love you, phone," when no one's around? Well, in 10 years you won't even have a phone. True story. By this time, the Information Superhighway will have become a Data Sea.

    To swim in this sea you won't need any special skills, or ninja-thumbs. You'll hardly use your thumbs in 10 years. You might have a tiny, wireless bud behind your ear.

    This bud can understand what you're saying. It can translate foreign speech. It can use your skull as an acoustic shell to speak to you, or stream high-quality music to your brain. You might wear augmented-reality glasses, or contact lenses. One of the buttons on your shirt might be engineered to project images on to any surface - a table top; a whiteboard; your spouse's back during "soft play".

    The specifics of how you'll interact with the digi-sphere (and your spouse) are up for grabs, so to speak, but the reality is certain: digital information will be so seamlessly integrated with the real world that you'll not be able to tell the difference.

    It's likely that at some point we'll develop direct machine/brain interfaces. I'm sorry to have to break that to you. The medium could be a tiny chip embedded under your skin. It could be a neural lace (that's a nanotech netting that clings to your puny human brain and upgrades it so it can compete with powerful machine brains).

    Tesla founder Elon Musk is especially keen on the neural lace; though that's mostly because he's paranoid about becoming a slave to Artificial Intelligence. "I don't love the idea of being a house cat," he said recently. He'd rather be a bionic lion. But honestly, who has a the better life: a lion who has to constantly worry about finding food, and not finding poachers? Or my cat, Robert, who gets to lie around all day and never has to worry about where his next meal is coming from?
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    The idea that machines are coming to take our jobs away has been with us for a while now. In 10 years you might not have a job (statistically speaking).

    This year a Chinese factory increased production by 250 per cent, and dropped its defect rate by 80 per cent, simply by replacing 90 per cent of its workforce with machines. One Oxford University study has estimated that 47 per cent of American jobs could be lost to automation in the next decade. And it won't just be low-skilled jobs. Computers already make better hedge-fund managers than we do.

    In a few short years they'll make better lawyers, better doctors, better air traffic controllers. In fact, you'd be astonished how few jobs will be safe from automation.

    The good news is, this includes politicians. They were fine for the steam age, and the gasoline age. Any fairly smart politician can wrap their brain around the ins and outs of building a highway system. But have you ever heard a politician talk about cyber-security and thought, "This guy knows what he's talking about"? No, me neither. Politicians will become increasingly redundant in the modern age, while algorithms will become increasingly amazing at deciding the fairest and most efficient way of distributing resources - and responding to problems.

    Of course there's always the possibility that the AIs will become so smart they'll decide to enslave us. Which would be rough. Although when I look at how some people interact with their phones today, it's hard not to wonder if they're slaves already.

    And frankly, if the choice is between being in bondage to a giant digital brain, or having to endure another world leader like Trump, I'll choose slavery in a heartbeat...
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    Re: The Future...

    Everything you have stated leads one to ask whether people are inherently good? It's really a two-part question, because if you say yes, the implication is that you trust other people (i.e. humanity, society, taxpayers, government, neighbors, etc.) to provide each of these needs for you using technology as a proxy, especially when you have no means to repay them.

    - Will you trust the new autonomous flying drones to provide a ride for you? There's no pilot and no airplane controls should the computer crash or run out of power. I wonder what happens when the computer gets a blue screen. Well, that's for someone else to figure out. Maybe they can post a few selfies on the ride back down.
    - Do you trust the medical complex to provide a pill for you that is in your best interests and deliver a steady supply to you? Cancer is a modern disease. It has been said to be a disease of civilization like heart disease, diabetes, autism and alzheimer's disease. Most of those diseases were nearly unheard of 50 years ago. Today they are commonplace. We have a way of creating new problems as we deal with the existing ones.
    - The brainiacs behind the autonomous cars are already deciding who should be saved in the event of an imminent collision. Do you want your car to decide to take your life to save that of a pedestrian? That debate is already underway.
    - Yes, social networks will help us. As there are already numerous censorship algorithms underway to prevent any form of free speech or constructive dialogue. I suppose that would be for our benefit as well by the people (ahem machines) that care for us.
    - Why bother with scientifically constructing meat? Why not use the existing soy and textured vegetable proteins that increase estrogen and pseudo-estrogen levels in men and women? I suppose everyone in the future will be intersex and homo-attracted, so we can all have breasts.
    - Do you really trust these other people to connect your brain to the internet so they can over-ride your very thoughts? I can only imagine the possibilites... waking up in the middle of the night because some idiot is popping up viagra advertisements in my mind that give me headaches and I need to install a better ad blocker. We can't even launch the internet of things because the internet has proven itself to be impervious to security. It simply wasn't meant to handle the level of personal details that it is while keeping privacy intact, but maybe that was also the point... for our own benefit of course.
    - We are loosing more and more rights as time passes on. Why would we need better lawyers when we can have robocops? We are already having discussions about autonomous weaponized drones. Soon a drone will be able to kill you without even securing the approval of a human being. At this point, why would we possibly need politicians, right?
    - The point about AIs being smart is real cute... like the robots that are getting "bullied" or "assaulted". It's so cute how we humans tend to anthrpomorphize everything. However, the fact is there is no real AI that has been demonstrated anywhere. All we have is internet-connected increasingly complex algorithms and smart sensors, but no real intelligence.

    I think I'll pass on all of this nonsense and leave it to people much hipper than I am. I understand now why you hate Chris White / nowheretorun. You really do intend to worship the machines.

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    Re: The Future...

    Quote Originally Posted by sjkted View Post
    The point about AIs being smart is real cute... like the robots that are getting "bullied" or "assulted". It's so cute how we humans tend to anthrpomorphize everything. However, the fact is there is no real AI that has been demonstrated anywhere. All we have is internet-connected increasingly complex algorithms and smart sensors, but no real intelligence.

    Like I said...'Like it or not' and it has zero to do with trust of any kind...because...

    It's coming, make no mistake! some is already here, do some research in this area and you will be surprised.

    The future is gonna happen, kicking and screaming, it's gonna happening. Fast paced tech is here and we have only seen it's infancy.

    Personally I think I would prefer an AI leading intelligence over those that 'believe and bash' the Jesus Christ/God meme or Allah slash any other nonsensical belief system.

    Seriously...

    Also....you say 'Cancer is a modern disease'... It's not, been around in all forms of life going back as far as we can. One can argue there is more of it today opposed to yesteryear, yet that data is flawed.

    100 years of learning to understand Cancer and the ability to observe it has led to us 'knowing' it exists. Beyond that you got sick and died. Mummies including preserved animals have been genetically proven to have had cancer.

    Remember there are 7 billion of us here now and only around 2 billion in 1920 with 450 million in the 16th century...so to say it's a 'modern disease' is inaccurate, and lacks time-line perspective per-capita.
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    Re: The Future...

    Of course it's already here. Much of it has already been developed and is only being barred from mass use by societal/legal restraints or for mass production to occur and lower the costs. The real question is whether it should be embraced or avoided.

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    Re: The Future...

    Here is a documentary by Aaron Dykes that outlines the future of worthless eaters.



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    Re: The Future...

    Quote Originally Posted by sjkted View Post
    The real question is whether it should be embraced or avoided.
    We won't have a choice as to a preferred preference. As a collective that is. Personally one could live in them there hills and do their best to avoid such but that won't get you very far in the long term.

    I'm a grandfather x2 and am part of their future directly, which also means I get to witness a world of high-end tech reliance within their lives. I saw my own children come into a world already reliant on mobile phs and computers and again I'll get to see their digital/interfaced/quantum/virtual evolution's unfold...

    So for me I guess I'll continue to embrace it, as Iv'e always done with technology...no point me taking any other view because it's happening regardless of ones aversion's.

    We're on a run-away bus...
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    Re: The Future...

    Hi Ross,

    Amen, that's why I'm an evangelist preaching accept the future because no choice exists. We just have to mold it in our likeness...

    Statistically everyday one is alive their odds for continued living goes up... I can get behind that trend for the future...

    Adamm

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