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    The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    ... is a load of tosh, IMO.

    A lot of disinfo agents are out there trying to spin the brains of the good peoples of the good planet Earth. The following video clip is just one example of the minions working for the Zionist elitist bankster agenda:


    But why are they messing with something so obvious as a spherical Earth?

    Well, first, let's establish an unassailable geometric fact of the Earth: it iis round and spinning. Look at Jupiter with your own telescopes. Does the Red Spot stay in the same place? No. It moves. More the further it returns to the same place every 9 hours and 56 minutes, the length of a Jovian day. The only way this is possible (at least in the known Universe) is that Jupiter rotates about an axis. But if Jupiter rotates about an axis, and your telescope should reveal other planets rotating about their own respective axes as well (with variation in the respective day lengths); then why would the good Earth be an exception to the rule and not rotate about an axis?

    Indeed, rotation about an axis, pick an axis any axis ... is anathema to the Flat Earth hypotheses.

    There are other, far deeper interpretations of John Lennon's masterpiece "Watching The Wheels". The Flat Earth quasi-hypothesis is not one of them. Enjoy the song and the sheer beauty of Lennon's creative mind.

    That said, there's an interesting observation to be had: the same crowds behind the The Flat Earth idiocy have also descended on the Moon landing hoax reality ... and are supporting the latter in kind. My best guess is that they are trying to disrepute the Moon landing hoax exposition by associating it with Flat Earth believers. These believers are a mishmash of idiots, the unsuspecting, and the willful agents of the Zionist brand. It's not a small coincidence that this lot with epsilonic affection for the truths all promote the weakest and/or nonexistent science for the Flat Earth quasi-hypothesis and, too, the weakest arguments against the Moon landings.

    Real science, of course, supports both a round-spinning Earth and a Moon that has never been visited by humans.

    While imagination is a beautiful thing in and of itself, beware those that substitute imagination (and/or agenda) for science ... and then claim the result as science.


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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    The following video reveals the impetus for the "Flat Earth" renaissance ... and that is to discredit those genuinely exposing the "Moon Hoax", namely, by infusing a turnip truckload of FlatEarthers in the caravan of Moon Hoax expositors.



    The thing to note here is that the video clip begins with real science and makes a mockery of the Flat Earth renaissance by studying some basic characteristics of water behavior (e.g. parabolic trajectories in the water fountain); by observing the periodicity in the moons of Jupiter; etc. But then, inexplicably, the video segues into the purported Apollo Moon landings. There is no rhyme or reason to link the two unrelated topics. Unless, of course, one is trying to use the absurdity of the FlatEarth renaissance to claim an absurdity in the Moon Hoax exposition.

    Man has never landed on the Moon. There is absolutely zero evidence for NASA's claims that they had done so back in 1969 and a few years afterwards. Just like there is absolutely zero evidence for a Flat Earth, at least as far back as the days of Copernicus.

    The proof is in the pudding. Not in any pudding recipes.

    Once again, there is much evidence supporting a Moon Hoax ... and no evidence supporting a Moon landing. just legerdemain.


    Arguably the best evidence of the Moon Hoax is the following videoclip:


    None of the NASA religionists have yet stepped forward to explain the above NASA videoclip. That's because the only credible explanation pops the balloon on the Moon Landing legerdemain.

    The FlatEarth renaissance is aimed at piggybacking an absurdity (e.g. the Flat Earth hypothesis) upon a reality (e.g. the Moon Landing hoax) ... so that from a distance neither can be resolved with any degree of satisfaction. Confusion is the name of the game here, good folks. And the ruling elites are targeting the gullible for this psychological operation.



    Confusion.




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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    The Flat Earth believers, followers and pseudo science presenting fools are almost beyond belief...almost. Human have proven throughout history their inadequate ability to discern and remain objective when presented with all manner of theories and apparent truths...

    This bunch though, are somewhat worse than their predecessors because they have NO excuse for their public expose of deliberate 'fake' science.


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    Look at Jupiter with your own telescopes.
    Yes I have, along with several visits to observatories over the years. Jupiter was especially exciting watching 'Shoemaker Levy' rip apart into several massive chunks in 1992 then to crash into the surface of Jupiter in 1994...one of the most memorable experiences looking through a telescope.

    People are drawn to conspiracy theories, though, and the Internet has only helped to accelerate their spread. They give certain people a sense of security, control and comfort that they haven’t found in the natural world around them. By only conversing with others that agree with them in “echo chambers,” any opposing views are filtered out, and they become increasingly entrenched in their own views. And this is what drives the Flat Earthers Society and subsequent believers.

    Today, NASA and other space agencies have built up a beautiful library of images of Earth, clearly showing that it is round – or technically a bumpy spheroid, an uneven sphere with a bulge at its Equator. Naturally, Flat Earthers always assume that these images are photoshopped. Fortunately, there are plenty of other ways to demonstrate the Earth’s sphericalness.

    A Greek astronomer by the name of Eratosthenes clearly showed Earth was round just over 2,000 years ago. He realized that rays of sunlight are hitting Earth at the same degree, but because Earth has a curvature, the length of shadows at different locations across Earth aren’t the same.

    By calculating this shadow length change between two cities – Alexandria and Syene – he gave an estimate for the circumference of the Earth: 46,620 kilometers (28,970 miles), which is only 16 percent larger than the actual value.

    Flat Earthers often say that access to Antarctica is restricted for our own safety; if we crossed over this icy ring around the edge of the flat disk, we’d fall off into space. Of course, humanity has circumnavigated the globe plenty of times, and no-one’s fallen off into infinite darkness just yet.

    If you look up into the sky and spot a star, you can track its position every night. If you then begin to move forwards towards the horizon, you’ll notice the star appearing further behind you each and every night. If Earth was flat, you’d be able to always see it. SInce Earth is round, this star will eventually sink and disappear below the horizon.

    It's Fundamental Physics
    All planets in our Solar System and the thousands of exoplanets we’ve discovered far beyond our little corner of the galaxy are roughly spherical. It’s a fundamental feature of physics; celestial bodies of a significant mass are spherical due to the effect of gravity, which acts in all directions to pull objects towards the center of mass.

    And if any more proof was needed, we also have seasons and ice ages. The amount of sunlight hitting parts of the planet changes from season to season, from icehouse world to greenhouse world, and this is entirely dependent on the degree of tilt a spherical Earth has with respect to the Sun.
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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    Here's the Rothschild rag, The Guardian, doing its part in disseminating a contrived linkage between genuine researchers and the nutjob researchers advancing the FlatEarth resurrection.
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...racy-theorists


    beginExcerpt
    Beyond Dubay’s vitriol and a few political squabbles lies a fundamental question for flat-Earth factions: sure, the videos draw hundreds of thousands of page views, but who are the true believers?

    A New York magazine piece on flat-Earthdom is skeptical of some who claim the mantle: “The line between actually believing the theory and enthusiastically entertaining is unclear. Being a Flat Earther exists in the same online space as chemtrails and the notion that 9/11 was an inside job: there are some who believe it sincerely, and magnitudes more who entertain the notion ironically.

    Some conspiracy theorists take it farther. What if all the flat-Earth talk is a big psychological experiment to see what we humans will believe in an era in which sizable groups already go against scientific consensus on vaccines, evolution and climate change?

    “Maybe they wan’t to create the perfect concoction of pseudo-science bullshit and fabricated statistics to see who will blindly follow,” reads the opening comment of a thread in Reddit’s conspiracy theory subreddit. “They can then set up or use the same tactics to further lead the conspiracy community astray. Who else thinks this is a psy-op?”
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    As I had guessed, it looks like the FlatEarth resurrection is a psyops intended to tarbrush all conspiracy researchers as being nutjobs. The FlatEarth resurrection is as potent as a "psyops" as it is ridiculous as a "science". It can create confusion in conspiracy research circles by associating genuine researchers on any real conspiratorial topic with Flat Earth nutjob shill researchers who simultaneously and strategically endorse the genuine researchers on the real conspiratorial topic. When that happens, the task of genuine researchers is made that much more cumbersome because now they must explicitly dissociate from the perception of brotherhood with nutjob researchers.

    The above article mentions three actual conspiracies uncovered by genuine research: Moon Landings Hoax, chemtrails, 9/11/2001 attacks ... and tries to discredit them all by aligning the research/researchers in those conspiracies with the agents/agencies of the FlatEarth resurrection psyops.

    (As I'm having a protracted discussion with Ross on chemtrails, let me reiterate my adopted agnostic stance on that controversy and call it an apparent conspiracy for now. As for the other two mentioned controversies, Ross is in cognitive dissonance wrt the evidence of the Moon Landings Hoax; and we both generally agree on the inside job nature of the 9/11/2001 attacks.)


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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zook_e_Pi View Post
    Ross is in cognitive dissonance wrt the evidence of the Moon Landings Hoax
    And you come to that assumption because I hold one view for say 911, and another for the Moon landings, proposing I'm in contradiction?

    Yeah ok... and below explanation is a goody...

    Cognitive dissonance theory proposes that people seek psychological consistency between their personal expectations of life and the existential reality of life. To function by that expectation of existential consistency, people practice the process of dissonance reduction in order to continually align their cognitions (perceptions of the world) with their actions in the real world.
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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zook_e_Pi View Post
    As I had guessed, it looks like the FlatEarth resurrection is a psyops intended to tarbrush all conspiracy researchers as being nutjobs.
    To be fair, and for the record I get your point, but many in the conspiracy ranks are nutjobs...and any on the outside see that clearly.

    You me and others are old hands at this game but for an outsider or novice they're gonna get hammered with everything, and all seemingly in the same 'alt media basket'

    Flat Earth, Reptilians, David Icke who gets some of it right (banksters) to then taint good research with nut-jobbery...We've got Hoagland, Wilcock, all sundry of ascension nutius jobberous, frauds, snake oil men...hell, it's a complex asylum where nutjobs are the norm looking in...then there's this fool...

    Conspiracy theorists are yet again convinced that the world is about to end thanks to the mysterious planet Nibiru.

    Nibiru was meant to destroy Earth on September 23 after a Christian numerologist claimed it was about to collide with our planet, the Daily Mail said.

    After the prediction flopped, some have claimed Nibiru will instead trigger apocalyptic earthquakes on November 19 that will obliterate our planet.
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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    I suggested in other posts that conspiracy theories essentially pointers to a conspiracy. Most of the theories are whackjobs. Most of the conspiracy researchers are nutjobs. But if one takes the time to eliminate all the whackjobs and nutjobs; one will eventually be left with a genuine conspiracy and conspiracy researchers. Winnowing the wheat from the chaff, as it were, Ross ... as opposed to flailing away at suburban lawn grass in search of wheat.

    That said, the expectation in conspiracy research is finding chaff and wheat, not just chaff. Discernment is the winnow.


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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    And you come to that assumption because I hold one view for say 911, and another for the Moon landings, proposing I'm in contradiction?
    I'm proposing cognitive dissonance. Nothing wrong with that, but it does pose a burden if your avocation is truthseeking. You're bound to run into the hard truths sooner or later, and cognitive dissonance allows a way to function by re-routing around the hard truths. That sorta thing.

    Yeah ok... and below explanation is a goody...

    Cognitive dissonance theory proposes that people seek psychological consistency between their personal expectations of life and the existential reality of life. To function by that expectation of existential consistency, people practice the process of dissonance reduction in order to continually align their cognitions (perceptions of the world) with their actions in the real world.
    Nice definition. Gets to the point with minimal verbiage.


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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    This obvious evasion of a simple question: "Is the Earth flat?" ... exposes David Icke's muppetry, IMO.



    No one asked Icke if we were all living in a simulated reality. Given our reality (simulated or otherwise), is the Earth flat inside this reality ... that was the essence of the question. And Icke sidesteps the question.

    The more important question is ... why is Icke sidestepping an easy verifiable answer to a simple question?

    Answer: to maintain confusion.

    Qui bono from maintained confusion? That's correct: the ruling elites.

    So while Icke claims to be exposing these elites, he misses an easy opportunity to eliminate confusion. To be sure, contrived confusion. Indeed, the Flat Earth renaissance which has come out of nowhere in the past few years, is a psyops designed by the corrupted system to pollute the internet with uncertainty. Specifically, to create a fog around known conspiratorial events by associating those events with the Flat Earth renaissance crowd.



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    Re: The Flat Earth "so-called" theory ...

    Here's David Icke more or less telling the truth:


    So we have Icke passively supporting the Flat Earth renaissance by not stopping it in its tracks when given the chance to do so. A condemnable act against truthseeking.

    Then we have Icke endorsing reality when he exposes the origins of the Khazarian conspiracy and its modern incarnation as Rothschild Zionism. A commendable act of truthseeking.

    And this is why we cannot depend on so-called truthseekers that are heavily promoted by mainstream media or even alternative stream media. Icke is credible on 90% of his material. But that is by design. The Zionist system will allow him to expose 90% of the truths .... but will then insist that Icke support things like Reptilians and Flat Earth renaissance (in full, half- or even quartermeasure) because that's all it takes to create confusion in the masses. A mixture of 90% drinking water with 10% horse piss ... is still undrinkable. That sorta thing. All it takes is 10% pollution to negatively impact the 90% which are indeed the truths.

    To this, a Judas goat cannot lead the other goats astray by pretending to be a wolf; it must mimic the other goats as much as possible. And Icke does a really good job of masking as a goat. In the end, he is working for them because you will recognize the false goat when he tries to enter the Reptilian and Flat Earth stables ... and then you will question yourself for having followed the false goat into the other stables, the stables that do actually contain the truths.

    Designed confusion.



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