Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Why Australia needs to make America great again

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Administrator Ross's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    1,159
    Thanks
    1,024
    Thanked 1,292 Times in 777 Posts

    Why Australia needs to make America great again

    Read this article coming out of Australia...

    While it misses the mark in certain aspects, that being the architectural design of general economics and social engineering mandates, while not wholly always going to plan, it certainly hits the mark when we look at the alternatives.

    Probably a case of you didn't realize how good you had it until it was gone mantra.

    In any event, it's a stark reality of a possible future if America is not made great again.







    Article:

    Why Australia needs to make America great again

    IT’S the scary prediction made four years ago and, now, all of the signs that a deadly global war is on the horizon are coming to pass.

    IF YOU think the world as we know it couldn’t possibly get any worse, don’t worry: It soon will.

    In fact, it will probably happen in about 22 years’ time — and that’s if we’re lucky.

    That is the estimate of the historian Ian Morris, who in 2014 wrote a groundbreaking book called War! What Is It Good For?

    In it, Morris argues that war is actually quite good for something, namely peace.

    Basically the idea is that as long as the same side keeps winning all the wars they are involved in then people will eventually be too scared to fight it and we will all live long and prosper.

    In other words, living under the Roman Empire was pretty grim when they were torching your village and raping your women but once all the dust had settled and the blokes had been enslaved or killed life was actually pretty good.

    Morris crunched the numbers of the past 15,000 years and found that in Stone Age tribal society up to one in five people might have met a violent death. In the first century that number was reckoned to be just three or four people out of a hundred.

    The same is broadly true of virtually all monolithic empires, from the Persian to the British. Once the war has been waged and won, even the most dictatorial ruler usually just wants their subjects to shut up, work hard and pay their taxes.

    And of course the best way for any state to ensure that its citizens do not fight among themselves, nor rise up against the government, nor be invaded by external threats is to make sure that its capacity for force is so overwhelming that all parties know to do so would be futile. The state must have an absolute monopoly on violence.

    The idea that peace can only come with some kind of subjugation or constant threat of reprisal sounds pretty scary but it is also the way the world has always been throughout all of human history. Indeed, that is the whole reason we have a police force.

    Idealists have long imagined a better world and created theoretical utopias of absolute equality but virtually every time they have ever been put into practice they have descended into totalitarianism.

    Likewise, progressives often complain about the state of the world today but it is only unfair or oppressive compared to an imagined ideal that has never been reached. All in all, the world is almost certainly a more peaceful, prosperous and democratic place than it has ever been.

    Indeed, if we go back only a century we find humanity in the midst of the bloodiest and most clinically and industrially brutal slaughter it had ever witnessed, The Great War — the war that was supposed to be the one that ended all wars.

    Many have argued that Germany gambled on the fact that Britain would not enter the war and certainly Britain was the power of whom Germany was most scared but obviously it was not scared enough.

    The Kaiser must have figured that if worst came to worst Germany could possibly take Britain on. As the UK had shifted its focus from military to economic ascendancy, its reputation as a “global cop” had weakened.

    In short, the British Empire was not warlike enough and so the worst war of all began. And then a generation later that led to an even bigger and bloodier war, accompanied by mass genocide on an unprecedented scale. In all, the first half of the 20th century was probably the most comprehensively murderous period of human existence on this planet. And it may all have come down to the fact that there was no single power strong enough to stop it from happening in the first place.

    But what, you might ask, does this have to do with anything?

    Well, the catch is that since World War II we have had an extraordinarily long period of global peace and stability. And this is because there has really only been one great superpower in the world. Even during the Cold War the US was always ascendant and since the collapse of the Soviet Union it has been almost wholly unchallenged.

    It is certainly not perfect but, as global empires go, it is probably the best we’ve ever had. America, for all its faults, usually tries to be good — or, failing that, at least pretends to be.

    World War II was concluded with the dropping of an atomic bomb that levelled two cities. The two major conflicts between east and west since 1945 have been the Korean War, which ended in a ceasefire that is still being negotiated, and the Vietnam War, which was ended by peaceful protests. In World War II the penalty for desertion was death. A generation later all a draft dodger had to do was live in Canada — although many would argue this was an even worse fate.

    In other words, in a world of horrible bosses, America is probably the least horrible to work for. Perhaps not compared to a Byron Bay African drumming circle but certainly compared to almost every other phase of human history.

    The Americans are a bit like the captain of a high school football team. They want to be popular, win every game and decide who’s cool or not. And of course they often bully the weak and weedy but they usually try not to kill them where possible.

    Instead America just sits there with the most powerful military in the world and silently dares anyone to attack it or its mates, which is why we are able to negotiate trade deals with China instead of having them just drop a landing strip on us and why we were able to waltz into East Timor and liberate its gas fields — er, I mean people.

    It’s also why New Zealand has been able to trade in its entire defence force for a rubber dinghy and still not get invaded by Western Samoa.

    But, of course, there is another catch. According to an interview Morris gave to the BBC’s History Extra magazine a couple of years ago, this unprecedentedly peaceful period of US domination is likely to end somewhere in the 2040s — and that was his prediction before Donald Trump got elected. No doubt he now yearns for such heady optimism.

    Morris called this prospect “really, really scary”, which for a professor at Stanford University with a PhD from Cambridge is itself a pretty scary thing to say. And so we have about 22 years to get it together or we’re all totally screwed.

    China is on the rise, Russia is acting all bolshie again and America’s power is fading while its strategic alliances weaken. Its once unbreakable Pacific ally, the Philippines, is now run by a murderous madman who has swung to Putin, there is no longer even the pretence of strategic co-operation with China and its closest allies in Europe are now off-side and looking at going it alone. Even America’s best friend and next-door neighbour, Canada, is now massively pissed because of the Trumpian trade war.

    The rise of China is arguably the product of organic global forces, if not just sheer arithmetic, yet it is coupled with an aggressive surge in nationalism that has seen a doggedly anti-democratic government install its leader as dictator for life, seize control of international trade routes by building new island territories from nothing and effectively wipe Taiwan off the face of the map by demanding any airline that goes there declare it part of China.

    The theory was always that as China became more economically liberal it would also become more politically liberal yet in fact the opposite has happened. It has used its global market power to double down on its existing brand of weird communo-capitalism, and if anyone wants to protest about it they have to go to Hong Kong.

    And they thought the same thing about the Russkis but instead they just keep getting weirder and weirder. The head of the KGB has taken over the country and his biggest problem is deciding whether to make himself prime minister or president and what constitutes a plausible landslide majority. Meanwhile his cronies are invading the Ukraine, shooting down passenger jets and poisoning double-agents in English country gardens.

    Honestly, it’s like Jason Bourne sharted on an early draft of Red Heat and then gave it to Michael Bay.

    And while all this is going on, America’s relationships are blowing up like an Irish family Christmas, which is undeniably due to whatever is or isn’t happening in Donald Trump’s head between the hours of two and three o’clock in the morning and whatever bar Rudy Giuliani happened to be in at the same time.

    But say what you like about Trump, at least he was democratically elected. Again, even for all its faults, America tries to be legit.

    And so the catch within the catch within the catch is that even with Trump’s infuriatingly erratic, idiotic and morally dubious presidency, we actually need him to succeed. America really must be made great again, otherwise the world will at best be seamlessly overrun by a far more despotic and malevolent empire and at worst descend once more into global conflict, be it a trade war that decimates the international economy and plunges countless people into chaos and poverty or the actual killing kind.

    This is a genuine existential threat for liberal democracy and what we have come to take for granted as “civilisation”, yet the arbiters of online outrage are more concerned with the US President bonking a porn star, a kiss the Filipino president gave a woman at a press conference and calls for Theresa May to blow up both her prime ministership and what was once the United Kingdom by forcing Northern Ireland to legalise abortion using powers she doesn’t actually have.

    Meanwhile, here at home, we have been obsessed with the peccadillos of a Nationals MP having a midlife crisis and Pauline Hanson crying on TV about the fact that everyone she meets end up screwing her over. Perhaps she should familiarise herself with that handy rule of thumb: If you know more than three arseholes, it’s you.

    More importantly, all the Trump acolytes and apostates should equally get over themselves. No one cares about your hurt feelings or righteous vindication. The truth is that Trump himself doesn’t matter except insofar as America can survive him and hopefully even use him. Indeed, it has to be said that where the current nuclear threat is concerned he’s been uncannily successful. It may well be that the world’s greatest democracy has finally thrown up a leader that Kim Jong-un can genuinely understand.

    Ironically, the biggest threat Donald Trump poses to the world is not that he exerts himself upon it but that he withdraws America from it. That would leave Europe left with little but its millennia-old squabbles, Putin oscillating between the Middle East and the Eastern Bloc and Australia utterly exposed to the trade whims of China.

    That’s why it is vital to the world that the US continues to be the dominant global power. Not because it’s perfect, not even because it’s good, but because if it falls it will be replaced by something far, far worse.

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...cfa7ea0dd318ae
    Ross
    ***Fred Coleman, Founding Partner, Beloved Friend***
    who passed away 11/10/2016
    Rest in Peace
    ***

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ross For This Useful Post:

    Scott (06-14-2018),Zook_e_Pi (06-11-2018)

  3. #2
    Senior Member Zook_e_Pi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    On the way to Tiperary (via shortcut through the Tum Tum trees)
    Posts
    1,158
    Thanks
    1,373
    Thanked 1,302 Times in 713 Posts

    Re: Why Australia needs to make America great again

    Interesting article. There's some reality in it. Not necessarily from a justice POV, or a truthseeker POV, but definitely from the existing Power Pyramid POV.

    If we forget why things are the way they are (e.g. because of the existing global regime and primarily because) ... and how they are expected to decline further into corruption under the existing management ... then Ian Morris is merely projecting his observations. Extrapolating from existing points to points not yet existing. That sorta thing. Fair enough.

    The article is long, so I will post a rebuttal with a different narrative of things (e.g. from a joint truthseeker and justiceseeker POV) in an audiofile. At 55, I'm finding it difficult to keep up with the tactile tapping energies of the relentless typist. Definitely, commitment is required if Ian Morris's POV is to be analyzed properly.

    I'll try to post the audiofile by tomorrow. There is some to agree and much to disagree with the article.

    Asketh the waiter at the bistro on the boulevard of broken memes:
    "Coffee, tea ... or Machiavelli?"


    Pax
    Last edited by Zook_e_Pi; 06-11-2018 at 06:47 PM.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Zook_e_Pi For This Useful Post:

    Ross (06-12-2018)

  5. #3
    Administrator Ross's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    1,159
    Thanks
    1,024
    Thanked 1,292 Times in 777 Posts

    Re: Why Australia needs to make America great again

    Quote Originally Posted by Zook_e_Pi View Post
    Not necessarily from a justice POV, or a truthseeker POV, but definitely from the existing Power Pyramid POV.
    Indeed, but the article is not about justice or truth-seeking. Iv'e put this thread in Earth matters on purpose due to it being a very relevant topic.

    This article is about today's realities and while the design factors and influence via the infiltration and protocols of an Zionist agenda is part of today's reality, it certainly does not have over-all control of all leaders, past present and future...influence only. We can see this clearly with Putin, Xi Jinping in particular. Two leaders who have their own agenda's while circumventing a global chessboard. These two and their minions, have in recent months, allowed for leadership rule indefinitely within their own countries. In other words, both these have changed their constitutions so they can govern as presidents until they die if they so choose. And both these two have very clear mandates, they want what the west has had since WW2...and watch this space if they ever join forces.

    At least with those of us who have a democratic system, while flawed and influenced, we still have certain freedoms and lifestyles that the Chinese and Russians do not have...I'm talking the majorities of peoples.

    This is the realty we all live in and among-st. I say again you didn't realize how good you had it until it was gone mantra may become actual if the west gives way to a Russian or Chinese type of systems due to the USA losing it's empire power status...which is what this article is about.

    A rebuttal is pointless because the article is correct as in the realistic reality that we live in, here in the west.
    Last edited by Ross; 06-12-2018 at 04:14 PM.
    Ross
    ***Fred Coleman, Founding Partner, Beloved Friend***
    who passed away 11/10/2016
    Rest in Peace
    ***

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to Ross For This Useful Post:

    Zook_e_Pi (06-12-2018)

  7. #4
    Senior Member Zook_e_Pi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    On the way to Tiperary (via shortcut through the Tum Tum trees)
    Posts
    1,158
    Thanks
    1,373
    Thanked 1,302 Times in 713 Posts

    Re: Why Australia needs to make America great again

    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    Indeed, but the article is not about justice or truth-seeking. Iv'e put this thread in Earth matters on purpose due to it being a very relevant topic.
    There is no point in discussing anything, much less in Earth Matters, if the narrative of justice is missing or a narrative of truths is missing. That is self-evident, I would think. Everything else is kool-aid and/or narrative(s) grounded in bovine scatalogic reality.

    It shouldn't matter where you put the topic, Ross. If the Earth Matters thread will only admit that the Rothschild brand is one of several big independent cats fighting for territory over the planet ... then its premise is incorrect. Any discussion then would be pointless because it would all hinge on this incorrect premise.

    The reality of the planet - one entirely stitched from facts and probability clouds and an abiding insurmountable preponderance of evidence - is that there is only one big cat left on the planet. This cat had killed off all the other big cats that ventured onto its territory some numerous decades ago. And in the intervening decades after the last of its competitors had been vanquished, the big cat has become brobdingnagian in mass and appetite. With its original territory now expanded to include virtually the entire planet (e.g. each vanquish of a competitor meant gain of the loser's territory by the Rothschild cat), the governing lion of 2018 jungle planet Earth - even in Brobdingnagian size - has too much property to roam and defend by itself. So it had inseminated all the lionesses in its conquered harems and now has different sons installed in different territories, each son to manage a small territory ... with no son given a big enough territory slash feeding ground to pose a threat commensurate with the size and appetite of the father. So that when the father ventures into the son's territory (pick a son, any son) the son lays down to watch the father feed all the while wishing for the father to leave so that the son can be master of an own domain again.

    In human terms, the Rothschild lion has virtual physical control of the Earth planet via a system of proxy controls. The so-called New World Order is merely the codified recognition of an unofficial reality that has been in place for numerous decades now. If you want to capitulate to this codifying reality, Ross, that is your prerogative. But sharing Ian Morris's POV and calling it reality stretches the rubber beyond the point of elasticity.

    This article is about today's realities and while the design factors and influence via the infiltration and protocols of an Zionist agenda is part of today's reality, it certainly does not have over-all control of all leaders, past present and future...influence only. We can see this clearly with Putin, Xi Jinping in particular. Two leaders who have their own agenda's while circumventing a global chessboard.
    Then you haven't studied the evidence with either resolution or any attempt at finding resolution. Alas, in the world of the Fuzzy Wuzzy anything is possible, even independent leaders sprouting from gardens long tended by Rothschild gardeners, seeds, fertilizers, and manicuring tools. In a world where the kingmaking machinery is owned and controlled by a single group, it takes magic mushrooms to place faith in puppet strongmen like Putin or Xi Jinping. Putin from the gardens of Bolshevism. Xi Jinping from the gardens of Communism.

    Mao read a book by Marx, so did Lenin ... so did Castro, Menghistu,, Saddam, Ceaucescu, etc. ... so did every other left-styled strongmen puppet installed by the Rothschild brand and kingmaking machinery, the lynchpin of this machinery being fiat money or "credit" by another rosaic name ... and Marx was blood-related to the Rothschild clan. The centralization of credit is the primary plank of The Communist Manifesto. The Rothschild brand and bankstering baronship owes everything to the monopolization of the money functions. Coincidence?

    Coincidence is a brick on the Brooklyn Bridge.

    To finish the point, right-styled strongmen (Hitler, Mussolini, Marcos, Somoza, Pinochet, Peron, Mugabe, Idi Amin, Trump, etc.) have also been imposed by the kingmaking machinery in the duty of dichotomy. From maintaining division to maintaining conquest. That sorta thing. A hawk is a bird with two working wings.

    (Yes, Hitler was rightwing, although illiterates tend to confuse national socialism with actual socialism which is leftwing). Neither here nor there, just tying up loose ends.

    These two and their minions, have in recent months, allowed for leadership rule indefinitely within their own countries. In other words, both these have changed their constitutions so they can govern as presidents until they die if they so choose. And both these two have very clear mandates, they want what the west has had since WW2...and watch this space if they ever join forces.
    What is scary is that you and a lot of otherwise intelligence people actually believe in the independence of Putin and Xi JinPing. For me, watching intelligent people place faith in Putin/XiPing/Modi/Trump/Merkel/etc. ... is like watching molasses roll uphill on a cold winter's day. No. Thank. You. Less intelligent people are expected to wait for the infinite white climb of molasses, but when gifted people start doing that (here, many of my friends in real life, many of those in high-end professions ... are also watching molasses) ... well, I have to actively and periodically convince myself that I belong to the same species.

    Never have I been more disappointed in the species then after the events of 9/11/2001 ... that line in time and space has essentially separated me from the bulk of my friends and relatives ... and I've been floating like a polar bear on an ice floe ever since (however real or unreal that that metaphor is, after all, global warming and the funding politics is an epic fraud waged with pseudoscience); thankfully, as a metaphor it doesn't have to be real).

    Fortunately, I have a box where I can carry most of my friends and relatives, e.g. so that I can still have a relationship with them.

    Zook's triple-compartment box of Chocolates, Chuckling Buddhas, and Cognitive Dissonance. It's always left open these days because there's uninterrupted traffic pushing into one of the compartments and I don't want to wear out the hinges.


    At least with those of us who have a democratic system, while flawed and influenced, we still have certain freedoms and lifestyles that the Chinese and Russians do not have...I'm talking the majorities of peoples.

    This is the realty we all live in and among-st. I say again you didn't realize how good you had it until it was gone mantra may become actual if the west gives way to a Russian or Chinese type of systems due to the USA losing it's empire power status...which is what this article is about.

    A rebuttal is pointless because the article is correct as in the realistic reality that we live in, here in the west.
    We'll have to agree to disagree, Ross. I'll have to post my audiophile somewhere else as there's no point in posting stuff where the only other regular tenant has already refused resolution on the stuff that is there for the taking.

    The irony here is that Morris is essentially correct if you confine his observations and arguments to his POV. As real as any virtual jungle society with multiple alpha cats fighting over territory. The actual reality, however, is quite different. There is only one alpha cat stalking the territory. Capitulation is the only recourse for the other animals in the ecosystem, including the beta cats. And they have capitulated. Given that reality, Morris is making koolaid to sell at 5 cents a cup by the curbside. More power to him.


    Pax
    Last edited by Zook_e_Pi; 06-12-2018 at 07:20 PM.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to Zook_e_Pi For This Useful Post:

    Ross (06-12-2018)

  9. #5
    Administrator Ross's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    1,159
    Thanks
    1,024
    Thanked 1,292 Times in 777 Posts

    Re: Why Australia needs to make America great again

    Missing the point Zook...

    The article references Ian Morris's book on War, and only the first part of the article. The article in it's context is about Why the western world needs America to be great again The guts of the article.

    I'd rather a Zionist influenced Western type system than an Zionist influenced Russian or Chinese totalitarian type system...or an Islamic style system based in religious law.

    Which is what the article refers to.

    Not a matter of the truth nor is it a matter of justice, is above article, it's a matter of what is...you can make it about whatever you want...for me, it's a matter of I'd rather the western version than any other version dictating to it's peoples.

    Make America great again...or suffer a version of life far worse than what you're use to. That's the entire point of the article.
    Last edited by Ross; 06-13-2018 at 12:53 PM.
    Ross
    ***Fred Coleman, Founding Partner, Beloved Friend***
    who passed away 11/10/2016
    Rest in Peace
    ***

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Ross For This Useful Post:

    Zook_e_Pi (06-13-2018)

  11. #6
    Senior Member Zook_e_Pi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    On the way to Tiperary (via shortcut through the Tum Tum trees)
    Posts
    1,158
    Thanks
    1,373
    Thanked 1,302 Times in 713 Posts

    Re: Why Australia needs to make America great again

    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    Missing the point Zook...
    I was making a more fundamental point, Ross. The point Morris is making itself hinges on the fundamental point I was advancing.

    The article references Ian Morris's book on War, and only the first part of the article. The article in it's context is about Why the western world needs America to be great again The guts of the article.
    Karl Marx wrote some books on why the existing class structure of his time needed to be replaced ... but he didn't do it from a perspective of genuine concern for the human condition. He did it to prepare the masses in the secretly planned transition away from a primarily nontribal old class order to a tribal new class order. Karl Marx was first and foremost a tribal monkey.

    Which is why the first thing one should wrap their heads around is Morris's intent ... because he too is writing books that are being promoted gratuitously in the Zionist-controlled print media. And Morris does indeed betray his intent early on in the following article excerpt:
    beginExcerpt
    Basically the idea is that as long as the same side keeps winning all the wars they are involved in then people will eventually be too scared to fight it and we will all live long and prosper.

    In other words, living under the Roman Empire was pretty grim when they were torching your village and raping your women but once all the dust had settled and the blokes had been enslaved or killed life was actually pretty good.

    Morris crunched the numbers of the past 15,000 years and found that in Stone Age tribal society up to one in five people might have met a violent death. In the first century that number was reckoned to be just three or four people out of a hundred.

    The same is broadly true of virtually all monolithic empires, from the Persian to the British. Once the war has been waged and won, even the most dictatorial ruler usually just wants their subjects to shut up, work hard and pay their taxes.
    end
    Those four sentences alone reek of capitulation. Reek of preparing the masses for the designed global new order. Morris's POV? War is inevitable. War is necessary for peace. Of course, that's just a hop skip and jump away from War EQUALS Peace. Morris has much in common with Marx, and also Eric Blair, the MI6 operative who penned 1984 back in 1948 ... not necessarily to warn the people of the building tyranny ... but to prepare the period between WW2 and the designed upcoming WW3. Keep the masses suspicious of the elites and separate from them, that sorta thing, so that the only thing capable of uniting the people with the elites again is WAR. War makes brotherhood of masters and slaves. Peace makes enemies of them again. That's one sick mother trucker mindset, Ross. Hope you yourself don't succumb to it.

    Morris wants to make a pact with the devil.

    FTR, America was never as great as the mainstream Zionist rags hyberbolize about it. That itself is a psychological operation. And America was never as free as advertised except in the brains of the gullible and the beguiled. The reality of America - at least in the past 200 years and post-Andrew Jackson - is of elitist interests running the big show. The Rothschilds funded both sides of the American Civil War so by the late 1860s, the initial energy of the American Revolution had been displaced by neocratic elitists. So what exactly does Morris want everyone to go back to? The people "of the people" hadn't had a say in its proceedings for at least 150 years. Tribal organization, yellow journalism, and periodic purges have effectively tamed the wild maverick and handed the reins of control over to a tribal bankster conspiracy.

    Morris is defending this conspiracy; and nowhere near offending it. He's not merely an apologist for the global corruptions that we see today, he's an active cheerleader of them. That said, what is the point of the article other than that WAR is good ... that total victory is good ... that on the sea of totalitarianism, lies the promised land?

    Promised land for whom?

    And who is Morris trying to kid when he claims that America was great in the past? By what measure of greatness? Greatness of tyranny? Okay. Fair enough. But is that your measure of greatness, Ross? It certainly is Morris's measure.

    FWIW, America was built on the meme of WAR. From an international POV, it has been a rabid bellicose superpower for the better part of 1.5 centuries, about the same length of time that the Zionist interests have seized control of the American government apparatus. The people of America have been dumbed down to doorknob dumbness ... they have to be, to accept the arbitration of greatness that has been handed down to them (from the condescending Zionist ivory tower). And Morris wants the American masses to remain at doorknob levels of thinking. Which is why he penned the article.


    I'd rather a Zionist influenced Western type system than an Zionist influenced Russian or Chinese totalitarian type system...or an Islamic style system based in religious law.
    You comment above as if you think there is a genuine choice to be had by the people. The reality is that the world is a stage and a staged puppet show. The Zionist agenda will promote ideological systems as the need requires and demote systems as the need requires. Islam in the 21st century is written by the same Zionist printing press that has written the bibles of Zionism, Bolshevism, Communism, Nazism, Fascism ... even Capitalism.

    You don't have a choice, Ross. If they choose to take down the so-called Western system in favor of an Oriental system, then there's nothing you can do about it. They took down Czarist Russia and Kaiser Germany ... and refashioned those two states as virtual Zionist estates. They have pretty much done the same thing with America, but using a surreptitious method of takeover. The takeover of America has not been hostile but slow and smooth as Budweiser.

    Well, that's not entirely correct. You still have some choice ... you can choose to update your own information base with data points, arguments, and books not written by apologists of the burgeoning New World Order. Or you can choose to continue with uncritical acceptance of anything that feels good in the moment. If nothing else, Morris offers temporary release from the stress of having to face the monster we are all up against. He promises the bogeyman will go away if you give him a big hug. Tyrants are really just misunderstood blobs that feel unloved. Show some love and they will protect you. That sorta thing. (Morris's POV.)

    But if you want something different, Ross, your first task is this: stop pretending that you have a choice (within the existing system). Once that realization kicks in, you will gain access to choices that do exist ... choices that reside outside the system.


    Which is what the article refers to.

    Not a matter of the truth nor is it a matter of justice, is above article, it's a matter of what is...you can make it about whatever you want...for me, it's a matter of I'd rather the western version than any other version dictating to it's peoples.

    Make America great again...or suffer a version of life far worse than what you're use to. That's the entire point of the article.
    Fair enough. I have given you as much as you need to explore and develop my arguments yourself, if you wish. I cannot tell someone who believes he has representation in the system when it is clear to me that he doesn't have any real choice.

    If you prefer not challenging the status quo, Ross, then you have no more choice in your preference for a Western style system than a small boat on the high seas (without rudder or rowing poles) has choice in its destination. My simple advice then? Close your eyes, the Sun will kiss you, tomorrow the clouds will piss you ... remember you'll always be free.


    Pax
    Last edited by Zook_e_Pi; 06-13-2018 at 08:41 PM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •